Redeamer

March 8, 2006 - 5:41 pm [ Reply ]

If you think this is a warrior weapon reevaluate yourself. 41 agi does nothing nothing but add 2% crit some dodge and armor. i adds 122 ranged attackpower or 152 for a survival hunter (this includes 25 agi enchant). How much atp does it add for warriors? oh wait they dont get any from agi. Heck, the unstoppable force adds same crit, more atp, and a lil less stam witha stun proc to boot. Can a warrior use? Yes. Are there better weapons than this for warriors? Many. Can a Hunter use? Yes. Is there a better 2her for a hunter? No. Hunters over warriors on this one, even after ms speed normalization

FreeRadical

March 8, 2006 - 5:03 pm [ Reply ]

Any warrior with access to this polearm also has access to much better MS weapons, aka HoR, Ashkandi, etc. With the new 2H +25 agi enchant, this polearm is better than dual BSH in Agi, Sta, and Damage. If you want this over Ashkandi, I'll take that trade any day, if not, stick to the actual warrior weapons.

Pirana

February 22, 2006 - 6:49 pm [ Reply ]

Ok im pretending i didnt see that last reply.
Ok so the only thing a warrior is for is for tanking? ok IF so. then since when
did hunters go melee? i know you cant throw that spear.
And if its for the +agi its sad., hunter recieves an extra +% in ever 100 agi isnt that correct?
Lets say were on magmadar in MC. or another boss. there is ONE person tanking. others do dps, that polearm helps that MUCH since the damage of their MS is huge.
If we going to think only whats good in raids then hunters should stick with their bows. (rok'del OR the crossbow from bwl). and warrors with their melee weapons.
END of story

the Bullfury

February 13, 2006 - 11:53 pm [ Reply ]

ROFL guys ^^ this is a Hunter weapon serusly and im warrior myself warriors DOES NOT neeed agillty for crits they just tanking and for that we do not need any agillty or more crit chance leave it for hunters:P

El-Diablito

February 6, 2006 - 2:07 pm [ Reply ]

Ok, clear things up

My class is a hunter, I also have a lvl 60 mage.

My hunter farms MC/BWL/ZG weekly including Nefarian, i've been sad that warriors had prio on askhandi but upon seeing this I dont really mind.

Fact is, Askhandi = warrior whilst this = hunter
Will you as a warrior say you honestly want this over a hunter?

I dont know about your guild, different guilds different prio systems but i'll be suprised if my own guild allows warriors to bid on this yet barr hunters from akshandi.

It is a good warrior weapon but inferiour to so many others.
It is the best hunter 2h and yes, I want stamina aswell, my objective is to get 6.000 HP, as this hunter is my "alt" thou i still have 1k to go ^^

If you are a warrior and get it, have fun with it, but you could do better and I doubt you'll make yourself popular if you take it over a hunter, if no hunter needs it knock yourself out, I have an obsidian egded blade as town gear myself (nexus crystal as the warriors in my guild call them).

El-Diablito

February 6, 2006 - 2:06 pm [ Reply ]

Ok, clear things up

My class is a hunter, I also have a lvl 60 mage.

My hunter farms MC/BWL/ZG weekly including Nefarian, i've been sad that warriors had prio on askhandi but upon seeing this I dont really mind.

Fact is, Askhandi = warrior whilst this = hunter
Will you as a warrior say you honestly want this over askhandi?

I dont know about your guild, different guilds different prio systems but i'll be suprised if my own guild allows warriors to bid on this yet barr hunters from akshandi.

It is a good warrior weapon but inferiour to so many others.
It is the best hunter 2h and yes, I want stamina aswell, my objective is to get 6.000 HP, as this hunter is my "alt" thou i still have 1k to go ^^

If you are a warrior and get it, have fun with it, but you could do better and I doubt you'll make yourself popular if you take it over a hunter, if no hunter needs it knock yourself out, I have an obsidian egded blade as town gear myself (nexus crystal as the warriors in my guild call them).

msm

February 5, 2006 - 12:32 pm [ Reply ]

"28 stamina is the same for every class"

actually, hunters have a talent that increases the bonus from stamina

Screamteam411

January 29, 2006 - 11:12 pm [ Reply ]

You have GOT to be kidding me. Are you going to sick this %crit bullshit on us again, Mr. Warrior? Check it out, Warriors need 20 agi for a crit. Hunters need 53. The reasoning behind this is that hunters have much more agi than warriors and this keeps us hunters from having 40% crit chances and getting 2 AP from agi and PWNING everyone. Hell, guess what!??! ANY AGILITY ITEM gives more %crit to a warrior than a hunter! OMG LOOK! EVERY AGILITY ITEM IS DESIGNED FOR A WARRIOR THEN!!! Sure, we get the same agility from this overall as we do with 2 enchanted BSH's, but then again, so do you warriors. And to say a hunter doesn't melee is to say, "look at me, I'm a noob who doesn't play a hunter!!" Here's a quarter for all you warriors. Go buy a polearm with strength on it and then you can call it a warrior weapon. Cry more noobs.

Scout

January 13, 2006 - 5:25 pm [ Reply ]

Welcome to Thottbot. Let's pretend I'm amused and move on.

This is a fantastic hunter weapon for the aforementioned reasons - it's like two BSHs, only with twice the stamina and waaaaay better melee damage. I'm a hunter who currently uses paired BSHs and runs MC regularly, and unless this is vomitously ugly, this will be my next melee upgrade. Heck, I'll probably respec for Raptor Strikes for it.

Yes, it's a pretty good warrior weapon since it's slow and has nice crit. The problem is, Polearm spec is kind of awkward for warriors, which is why most go axe/mace/sword instead. Frankly, I'd be surprised if there were many warriors who'd want to spend the points.

Tarran

January 11, 2006 - 6:34 pm [ Reply ]

I hate the "hunter weapon" garbage posts just as much as the next person, but be realistic guys. This thing is one of a few that I think is clearly designed for a hunter. Yes warriors get around 2% chance to crit from this thing. So what, attack power is almost always superior to crit chance. There are several weapons in from Rag and BWL that are comparable DPS to this weapon with stats that clearly favor a warrior. If you really just have to have that agility, shoot for an Untamed Blade. You get a decent amount of agility, a lot of HP, good DPS, and a killer proc that goes of quite frequently.

Also, you can't really call it even with 2 Bone Slicing Hatchets for a hunter simply because they have the same amount of agility with enchants. This thing gives 21 more stamina, a HUGE boost in DPS and it is a slow 2 hander. Believe it or not, slow 2 handers are the best thing for hunters to melee with too because many hunters have talents to increase their crit chance on raptor strike. That helps in 2 ways: 1.) Hunters are normally only in melee for a short period of time, so hitting once for a huge crit is quite effective. 2.) Without the Savage strikes talent, raptor strike is basically just adding 110 damage every 6 seconds or so. However, with a 20% increased chance to crit, you'll see more benefit from using a 2 hander. Why would you want a 20% increased chance to hit for 350-400 with BSH when you could have a 20% increased chance to hit for 1300 with this thing?

DragonSlayer616

January 7, 2006 - 2:26 am [ Reply ]

c'mon guys don't argue over every little thing like this! You want this to turn into another thottbot?! This can be a hunter or a warrior weapon, but odds are it's going to a hunter... Just saying, so no more argueing, please?

Bearoch

January 5, 2006 - 6:23 pm [ Reply ]

Any warrior that rolls/dkp's over a hunter should just /lifequit for being dumb and greedy.

RyzorTheUber

January 2, 2006 - 8:04 pm [ Reply ]

OK, 41 agility for a warrior equates to ~2.05% crit chance.
28 stamina, of course, is 280 HP regardless of your class.
For hunters, with 2X bone slicing hatchet(15 agi added to both), you get 56 agility...
with this + 15 agi, thats 56 as well....

I think its fair to say that this is a warrior PVP weapon.

the Bullfury

December 26, 2005 - 9:58 pm [ Reply ]

GO WARRIOR GO! (btw this polream have agillty bonus maby IT IS hunter weap after all :P)

DalaranTweek

December 26, 2005 - 6:05 pm [ Reply ]

bah, im a rogue.....

Hunter wpn. ftw

Ghazghkull

December 26, 2005 - 5:13 pm [ Reply ]

WARRIOR WEAPON!