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Parox
08-31-2005, 08:15 PM
Because I spend so much time reading the class forums I have come across many guides that may help some of you out. Here is my collection so far.

Druid Guides
1. Druid FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid&t=11628&p=1&tmp=1#post11628)
2. Druid Macros (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-druid&t=75723&p=1&tmp=1#post75723)
3. Druid Website good for class quest info (http://druid.worldofwar.net/)
4. Druid Forum (http://wow.forums.thedruidsgrove.org/)

Hunter Guides
1. Hunter Beast Info (http://www.goodintentionsguild.info/)
2. Hunter Epic Quest Strats (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=600151&p=1&tmp=1#post600151)
3. Hunters in instances Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=137591&p=1&tmp=1#post137591)
4. Hunter Attack info (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-hunter&t=358760&p=1&tmp=1#post358760)
5. Hunter Info (http://www.huntersofazeroth.com/)

Mage Guides
1. Mage Talent Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=23&p=1&tmp=1#post23)
2. Mage Equipment Guides (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=12046&p=1&tmp=1#post12046)
3. Mage FAQs (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=33152&p=1&tmp=1#post33152)
4. Mage AoE Grinding spots. (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=48467&p=1&tmp=1#post48467)
5. Non-Arcane Mage Talent Builds (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-mage&t=109627&p=1&tmp=1#post109627)
6. Mage Website (http://mage.worldofwar.net/)

Paladin Guides
1. Paladin Talent Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-paladin&t=62159&p=1&tmp=1#post62159)
2. Paladin Website (http://wow.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&file=index&func=display&ceid=62&meid=45)
3. Alternate Paladin Website (http://paladin.worldofwar.net/)

Priest Guides
1. Priest FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-priest&t=125973&p=1&tmp=1#post125973)
2. Alternate Priest FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-priest&t=126495&p=1&tmp=1#post126495)
3. Effective Healing Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-priest&t=68148&p=1&tmp=1#post68148)
4. Comprehensive Priest Guide (http://wow.whispre.com/files/priest_guide_v1.0.htm#_Toc97535320)
5. Priest Website (http://priest.worldofwar.net/)

Rogue Guides
1. Rogue FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=7&p=1&tmp=1#post7)
2. Lockpicking FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=20276&p=1&tmp=1#post20276)
3. Rogue Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=209389&p=1&tmp=1#post209389)
4. Rogue Leveling Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-rogue&t=29182&p=1&tmp=1#post29182)
5. Rogue Grinding Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-rogue&T=500421&P=1)
6. Guide to playig a rogue (http://strategy.worldofwar.net/news.php?id=41&page=1)
7. Rogue Website (http://rogue.worldofwar.net/)

Shaman Guides
1. Shaman FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=26616&p=1&tmp=1#post26616)
2. Shaman Talent Guides (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=36840&p=1&tmp=1#post36840)
3. Shaman Website (http://shaman.worldofwar.net/)
4. Shaman Macros (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-shaman&t=235651&p=1&tmp=1#post235651)

Warlock Guides
1. Warlock FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock&t=220101&p=1&tmp=1#post220101)
2. Warlock Website (http://www.wowmb.net/news.php)
3. Warlock Equipment Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warlock&t=423513&p=1&tmp=1#post423513)
4. Alternate Warlock Site (http://warlock.worldofwar.net/)

Warrior Guides
1. Warrior Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=151738&p=1&tmp=1#post151738)
2. Warrior Refernce Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=155290&p=1&tmp=1#post155290)
3. Warrior Macro List (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=74295&p=1&tmp=1#post74295)
4. Warrior Aggro Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=361110&p=1&tmp=1#post361110)
5. Warrior Grinding spots 23-60 (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-warrior&t=393563&p=1&tmp=1#post393563)
6. Warrior Website (http://warrior.worldofwar.net/)

Other Useful Links
1. Allakhazam: Good all around info (http://wow.allakhazam.com/)
3. Curse-Gaming: A Great Addon Website (http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php)
4. Very good Map site (http://www.worldofwar.net/)
5. Talent Calculator and Talent Build Templates (http://wowvault.ign.com/View.php?view=Talents.View&category_select_id=8)

Horde Leveling Guides
1. Level 0-25 (http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=123)
2. Level 25-40 (http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=124)
3. Level 40-60 (http://forums.curse-gaming.com/showthread.php?t=125)
4. Horde Grinding Guide (30+) (http://www.boggletech.com/xp/)

Profession Guides
1. Goblin or Gnome Engineering FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=146081&p=1&tmp=1#post146081)
2.Ultimate Professions FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=40&p=1&tmp=1#post40)
3. Enchanting FAQ (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=135831&p=1&tmp=1#post135831)
4. Money Making Guide (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-professions&t=164021&p=1&tmp=1#post164021)

I will be updating this when I find new stuff or when things change. Also, I have not tested every link so if there is an error please tell me.

Edit 1: Added Paladin Info
Edit 2: Added Profession Info

Rysidion
08-31-2005, 08:19 PM
This pretty much is the best post I've seen you make. Take that as a compliment, not an insult please :D GREAT JOB!

Tip: Orange is hard to read ...

Parox
08-31-2005, 08:23 PM
I should of reserved some slots but oh well.

Here is a guide on mage grind leveling. The Dire Maul lashers have been nerfed but this guide still works fine.

Horde Grinding Spots:
0-15 - Questing fastest possible exp.
15-20 - The Barrens - Harpies *
15-20 - The Barrens - Bristleback(s) *
20-25 - The Barrens - Bael Dun Exavs *
20-25 - Hillsbrad - Hillsbrad Farmers (etc)
22-26 - Thousand Needles - Galak Scouts (etc) *
26-30 - Hillsbrad - Mud Gnolls *
25-30 - Thousand Needles - Grimtotems
30-38 - Shimmering Flats - All monsters. *
38-40 - Dustswallow Swamp - Very North East Islands, Murlock Warriors/Oracles.

Horde And Alliance Grinding Spots:
40-46 - Ferales - Woodpaws (stay away from the ones that disease for slow casting speeds) **
46-48 - Ferales - Frayfeather Skystormers *
48-50 - Ferales - Harpies
48-51 - Southwest of Gadgetzan - Thistleshrubs *
50-54 - Western Plaguelands - First 'field' to the left, assorted monsters.
54-60 - Western Plaguelands - Scarlet Lumberjacks
52-60 - Eastern Dire Maul - Lashers ****

* = Recommended

EXP Rates:
Levels 30-40 = 18-20k exp/hour
Levels 40-51 = 20-25k exp/hour
Levels 52-60 = 40-50k exp/hour (Dire Maul)

Note: I recently took off the Western Plaguelands spots off the recommended list because of the release of the Honor PVP system. If you are on a PVE server, these spots should remain perfectly fine for you. If you're on a PVP server, try the spots, however, if you're being ganked, just switch back to Thistleshrubs or the Un Guro Elementals until level 52.

Spell Usage and Order:
Typically, you don't want to use spells such as Arcane Missiles, Frost Bolt, Cone of Code, and other horrible DPM/slow spells. Your basic spell order should be something similar to; Fireball, Fireball, Fireball, Frost Nova + Strafe Away, Fireball (Until low HP), Scorch (Until dead). Of course, this doesn't work for everything, but you get the general idea.

Click here for a video example

Tip: Strafe SIDEWAYS away from monsters, instead of just backing up. Backing up is 70% movement, Strafing sideways = 100% Movement. I've seen LOTS of mages just back up. Getting optimal distance helps a lot - especially if you're using intelligence gear.

Tip: Loot fast! Shift + Right click the body of the monster to auto-loot everything. So many people don't know about this feature, it's amazing. I admit, I didn't even know about it for a very long time.



Knowing Your Mage:
Knowing how much damage your spells do helps A LOT. This doesn't only help in grinding, but with PVP too. I would suggest getting a UI that displays the opponents (monster/player) HP as a percentage. This makes it easier to familiarize yourself with damage. I suggest using either Nurfed's UI or CT Mod. Personally, I use CT Mod and some of the Nurfed add-ons together. The general point to knowing your mage's damage, is optimizing your mana use. You don't want to cast a fireball when the monster has only 10% health left - because your fireball's normally do around 20%. Get the idea?



UIs and Add-ons:
As I just previously said, I personally use CT Mod with some of the Nurfed Add-ons. However, there are some other good UIs out there, such as Gypsy that lots of mages use.

As for add-ons, I also use the following:
CastAway: Spell Sequencer with adjustable reset timer
Spell Alert: Notifies you when an enemy monster/player starts casting, and includes what spell they're casting.
CoolDownHud: Displays transparent icons on screen of the spells that are on cooldown, along with how long is left on each.
StatusBars: Displays your HP/MP at the bottom of the screen.
Decursive: Lets you bind a hotkey to decursive, which will cast remove curse on you/your party/your raid, if they have a curse on them.

You can find these UIs/Add-ons at www.Curse-Gaming.com.



Mage Gear
Initially, I would suggest all mages get any * of intelligence gear possible. Max your mana out as much as you can. If not, settle for Eagle/Owl gear. You don't want to start having eagle gear equipped (as a priority) until 40+. Meaning, every time you go to AH, check out gear for levels 40+, because eagle gear gets harder to come by.



What about AOE leveling?
Lots of people claim AOE leveling is the best possible way to level at all times. I haven't found this to be true. However, there are certain spots/levels when AOE grinding is the best and easiest way to level; the major and most popular spot being Dire Maul. If you solo Eastern DM, you can easily obtain 40-50k exp/hour (yes, this is unrested experience). Are there more spots? I haven't find many other AOE spots in which I consider viable. It's important to note that dying decreases your exp/hour rate A LOT, so if there's a good chance of you dying, it might not be worth the trouble at all. However, I must say that if you have a priest, then AOE leveling becomes a much better possibility. However, I wouldn't design my talents around that for obvious reasons; you always will need a priest to level at maximum speed, and it's not solo.

Wondering how to AE grind DM? Click here to see a video of how it's done.


Talents, What's The Best?!
I've leveled 3 mages past level 40, in retail. Two of them being 60, and the last one being 40. This doesn't include any of the betas. I can safely tell you from what I've experienced, a pure fire build is the fastest way to level initially. This doesn't mean being pure fire at level 60, however. As many know, talents such as clear casting are very good. I've toyed with this a bit. I've noticed clear casting doesn't start making a good amount of difference until around 40-45. So, I would suggest picking a pure fire build (please stay away from some of the less-used fire talents, such as flame strike), and have it planned out in a way that when you hit 45, you'll have 16 arcane and the rest into fire. Why? 16 arcane is IAM, Clear casting, Evocation, and IAE. All the necessary and supporting spells a mage needs.

Tips: Read Alcaras's thread on talents, located here (Click Me). Plan your build in a way that meets what I said, but conforms to one of the arcane/fire // fire/arcane builds. This might save you some cash in the long run, while giving you the opportunity to test out one of the best viable builds in the game.



Managing Your Time Away From Grinding
WoW is a very easy place to waste time in. From constantly checking AH to doing professions, you can find yourself with a huge amount of wasted time on your hands if you don't pay attention.

- When checking AH, check for gear for later (but not too far off) levels too. Doing this will save you AH trips in the long run.

- Know what spells you get every two levels. Typically, it isn't worth interrupting your grinding if the spell you receive isn't going to increase your grinding time. If, for example, you're getting a new fireball spell, that's definitely worth the trip.

- WoW is WoW. There is no getting around it. Traveling in WoW takes a huge amount of time. I've seen a huge amount of people go looking for better pits, for an extra 1-2k an hour, instead of just sticking it out and getting that 20k+ for that amount of time the other guy wasted LOOKING for a place to level. Even with teleports, don't fool yourself, try to limit your traveling as much as you can.

- Professions. Professions are a very popular time waster. STOCK UP. Instead of turning clothe into bolts, and bolts into gear, every time you get materials, STOCK UP. Do it all in big bundles. Keep the materials in your bags if you don't need the space (some spots don't drop so much, some do), if not, stock it up in a local bank.

- Instances. Lower level instances are such a waste of time for a mage. The equipment received from doing them doesn't increase your performance like melee classes. I suggest skipping the lower level instances and head straight for the ones that matter; the end-game ones.

- Dying. As I said earlier, if you're dying a lot, it might be best to chose an alternative pit. Dying reduces your exp/hour rate a lot. It pretty much is equivalent to AH trips as a mage.



Best Professions For A Mage
This is typically different for the type of server you're on. The best options for a PVP mage are Alchemy and Engineering (I cant confirm Engineering myself, but there's a large amount of mages that think so, so I'll go with that for now). Other options would be Enchanting and Tailoring. I wouldn't suggest tailoring, I consider it quite useless. I've had 260 tailoring on one of my mages, maxed tailoring on another. There's very few items you can make that you'll find useful, mainly bags. Tailoring is probably a lot more useful on a priest.



Mage Armor or Ice Armor?
It really depends on the monsters you're grinding on. You'll want to use Mage Armor when you can. Although the spell does very little, that little might be the 20 mana you need to caste a scorch or fireball to finish a monster up. If the monsters do quite high damage, use Ice Armor. An example of this, would be (from experience): Woodpaws in Ferales don't hit hard if you level on them correctly (the basic spell order I stated at the beginning of this guide), but the Stormers (initially) after Woodpaws hit faster/harder, so I had to use Ice Armor to grind there (only the first level).



The 1-2 Levels Before A New Fireball Spell
These levels can be VERY painful. What I found to help a lot is saving all quests for these levels. Even if, for example, it's quests you complete by simply grinding on monsters (Shimmering Flats), don't turn them in until they're going to turn gray or you're on one of the levels before a new fireball spell. I do NOT suggest doing purely quests, but knowing which quests are easy/grind-able on helps a lot. Also, a higher level friend might be more willing to help you, if they know it's the level (or two) before a new fireball spell, and they know you've stacked up quests so they have a wide selection to help you from. If you cant do this, simply keep grinding and deal with the extra couple hours or so of how long it takes to level. Personally, all I did was not turn in grind-able quests as long as I could hold out - until these levels came up.



Dealing With The Boringness Of Grinding
There's no way to get rid of it. There's ways to deal with it, fortunately. The basic ways are to simply play music while grinding, or position your TV to a location where you don't have to turn much to watch it, or chatting in game. Grinding doesn't require you to watch your screen 100% of the time, even on a PVP server, so watching TV isn't too hard. A method I personally like is talking to friends, RL or on team speak, both are good choices to help you forget about what you're doing. One thing I urge everyone NOT to think about is how long it's taking to level, it'll make you extremely bored/frustrated.



Why Do People Grind If It's So Boring?
A simple, yet complicated question. The simple answer is that we're power gamers/PVPers. We want to get as strong as possible as fast as possible. The part where it gets complicated is where casual gamers and such are reverting to grinding, too. With the current state of WoW, there's very little reason to do quests. One of the only reasons is that you get more involved with the story/history of WoW. Another is that it is more entertaining than grinding. While I'm not going to try arguing with either of those, I will tell you the following:

There's very few rewards to doing quests, one of them being able to buy mounts from other races in your faction. This, funny enough, isn't very possible. The other being you get discounts. I'll let you know now that you can easily obtain an honorable status by questing from 1 to 14-15, which is what I did. Grinding rewards better than questing, more materials, more gold, more of a chance to receive rare drops (blues that bind on equip), and most importantly, faster/better exp. Also, you can grind to 60 and then proceed to do instances, which means you end up with the same gear as everyone else, but faster.



How long did it take you to max, using these methods?
A bit over 7 days. Of course, it can be done faster, if you already know all of these spots, fallback spots, etc, and if you go a fire/arcane build (I went Arcane/fire). Infact, people have already maxed faster than I did using this guide.



Mage Macros:
Here are some macros for mages. They work great for their purpose.

Polymorph Macro
Description: Announces the gender of the target, as well as their level.

script if UnitSex("target") == 1 then SendChatMessage("Sheeping Female " .. UnitLevel("target") .. " %t","say") else SendChatMessage("Sheeping Male " .. UnitLevel("target") .. " %t", "say"); end
/cast Polymorph(Rank 4)

Counter-Spell
Description: It will cancel whichever spell is casting and cast counter-spell. Works GREAT in PVP.

/script SpellStopCasting()
/script CastSpellByName("counterspell")

WOTF
Description: When you get feared in PVP, you automatically lose your target, this will automatically target the last person when using WOTF.

/cast Will of the Forsaken(Racial)
/script TargetLastEnemy()

Reparty:
Description: This will leave the party and reparty the person of your choice, resetting the instance. Very helpful with Dire Maul. Replace "Person" with the players name.

/script LeaveParty()
/invite Person

InsipidClownfish
08-31-2005, 09:21 PM
Wow. Very very nice. <3

Might I suggest too that this get stickied? (though it will suck if any of those links disappear off of the WoW forums or anything. D: )

Parox
08-31-2005, 09:27 PM
Yea, I will try to keep the links working though. :)

Togo
08-31-2005, 11:06 PM
Holy .........

Parox posted a usefull thread! :Wink:

This is stickied indeed!

Very nice job, really impressed by this post.

weegeeee
09-01-2005, 12:05 AM
Great, now I have to show my brilliance to the whole world. Wait, what are we talking about? ;)

Werras
09-01-2005, 12:12 AM
Very nice post, Parox. This is definetly quality stuff, and something I know I'll use. :Tongue: Therefore,

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8597/llamastamp48xh.jpg


:Sheriff:

Parox
09-01-2005, 12:14 AM
Very nice post, Parox. This is definetly quality stuff, and something I know I'll use. :Tongue: Therefore,

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8597/llamastamp48xh.jpg


:Sheriff:

Huzzah! The coveted Llama seal of approval!

~Infinity~
09-01-2005, 12:16 AM
I think this deserves a sticky if it hasnt already recieved one

EDIT - The site I offered was already on your amazing list

great job

Parox
09-01-2005, 12:19 AM
I think this deserves a sticky if it hasnt already recieved one

EDIT - The site I offered was already on your amazing list

great job

Hehe, thanks and I beat you to it, its the second one in the list under Warlock.

Tok
09-01-2005, 03:22 AM
Nerd :P

It's actually a very usefull post (A first?!)

Now I need to beat you!

Rysidion
09-01-2005, 06:34 PM
If Ghaz makes a super-helpful post, it will be my turn...

On topic: thanks for changing the colors.

Parox
09-01-2005, 08:54 PM
Just letting everyone know I have added some profession related guides.

Tok
09-01-2005, 11:53 PM
Just letting everyone know I have added some profession related guides.

You know what... I hate you!

Parox
09-02-2005, 01:23 AM
You know what... I hate you!


;)

weegeeee
09-02-2005, 01:23 AM
Tok has administration rights?

Tok
09-02-2005, 02:41 AM
Yes, yes I do.

Rysidion
09-02-2005, 02:27 PM
Tok has administration rights?

Yea, that kind of threw me off. I was like "Tok is red-lettered? Is my screen messed up?" Then I saw I was black, and knew that it was just fine.

weegeeee
09-02-2005, 07:27 PM
I wish I hadBTW what do you have to do to get them? (administrative rights)

Togo
09-02-2005, 07:47 PM
You have to have zeegs babies.

And then tell him you will up the child support bill if he doesn't make you an admin.


But really, Tok has some experience on some other website, and zeeg needed help.

Tok
09-02-2005, 11:29 PM
I wish I hadBTW what do you have to do to get them? (administrative rights)


Anyone who wants to know about all this should talk to me on Xfire (Drumman4ever), IRC, or send me a PM. Keep this thread on topic please :)